A terrific interview with Michael was posted today
on the website of Asharq Alawsat newspaper.
The interview was conducted while he was in Paris last
month.
Q
& A with CNN's Michael Ware
14/11/2007
By Enaam Kajjah Ji in Paris
Q: How did the idea of going to Iraq emerge?
A: I went to Kurdistan at the beginning of 2003 before
the military attack [on Iraq]. I got to Baghdad after
the fall of Tikrit in April 2003. I’ve been there for
four and a half years.
Q: Do you stay, like your fellow correspondents, in
Palestine Hotel?
A: No, I only stayed there for a short while in 2004,
but I stayed in other places. I wasn’t a correspondent
for CNN at that time.
Q: What were your first impressions of Baghdad?
A: I noticed a big difference between Baghdad and the
cities in Kurdistan. I still remember my first tour by
car in Baghdad, with a friend, and my fascination with
it, the city lights, the life, its population density
and its river. The river was so beautiful with
restaurants alongside its two banks. Of course, at that
time, the situation was relatively calmer. Markets and
restaurants were crowded with customers, diners and
families that were not afraid to go out at night.
Unfortunately, life in Baghdad is no longer like this.
Q: Who were you working for back then?
A: When I was working in the North, I was a freelancer.
I corresponded with the press and sent my articles to
Time Magazine but I did not film the invasion. I worked
on the front lines. There were two fronts, one where
Americans and Peshmergah forces fought against Ansar al
Islam near Halabja, and a second front against [deposed
Iraqi president] Saddam Hussein’s army. In those days,
I used to wake up and decide which front to go to. Even
before the Americans began the attacks, there were
daily battles in the north, some big and some small.
Some of them were against the Iraqi army but almost
every day, they were against Ansar al Islam. This is
why I was very busy during the months that preceded the
[American] attack. When the attack began, the first
strikes were against Ansar al Islam and the Americans
used Tomahawk missiles on sites and camps. When this
stage was over, Americans and Peshmergah fighters
headed towards Kirkuk and Mosul and of course towards
Tikrit. I followed them until we reached Baghdad. I
have many fond memories of the time I spent in
beautiful Kurdistan. I still have friends there, but my
years in Baghdad separated me from them and sent to me
to another field to deal with local politicians.
Q: At that time, were you optimistic about what would
happen in Iraq?
A: The truth is that I became acquainted with Iraq for
the first time through Kurdistan. I will never forget
the day when the regime fell in Baghdad and the scenes
of Saddam’s statue falling in Paradise Square. I was
there in Sulaymaniyah and I saw how the Kurds took to
the streets; the celebrations were exceptional and the
joy was overwhelming. Whoever saw such a scene could
only feel hopeful or feel that good days had finally
come. Since I only knew a little bit about Iraq, having
never visited it or worked there before and since it
was my first experience there, I felt that there was
hope on the horizon. At that time I did not know that
what followed would be worse.
Q: Was your outlook towards the Iraqi situation a
neutral one?
A: I had no choice but to be neutral. Our profession
forces us to deal with everyone, good and bad. This is
not our personal choice, but rather it is imposed upon
us by the historic responsibility entrusted to us. We
only have to witness what is happening in front of us
and to document it through reporting, audio recordings
and photography. However, making judgments is not our
job. We must be careful not to include any bias in the
news that we transmit.
Q: Was it easy for you to work in Baghdad?
A: Initially, yes. A journalist was able to work quite
easily. At that time, I used to write about the looting
and I think that the American army did not exercise any
control with regards to these crimes. At that time, one
was able to wander around Baghdad. We were free to
travel between cities, to go to Mosul for example
without difficulty. I went for a meal in Fallujah and I
tasted its famous kebabs but I don’t think that the
restaurant [I visited] is still there today. Even
driving at night was safe. I remember that I used to
drive my car in Tikrit at 11pm and I would talk to
people in the street without any problem. I can say
that what saw in 2003 was a completely different
country and way of life compared to the current status
quo.
Q: Do you fear for your safety?
A: It was, and still is, a war. Everyone is at risk.
Even an Iraqi family at home is not safe. A bomb could
land on the house or in the neighbourhood at any
moment. A car bomb could explode in a market…everyone
in Iraq is in danger, whether he is a journalist or
not, whether he is an Iraqi or a visitor to the
country. The situation was not that grave at the
beginning however, unfortunately, it is now
deteriorating. Regrettably, I say that this is life in
Iraq today.
Q: Did you read articles by your predecessors who had
covered previous wars in Iraq for CNN, such as Peter
Arnett and Robert Wiener?
A: No, because my experience has not been in this part
of the world. In the past, I covered the South Pacific
and South-East Asia. I only got to the Middle East
after the 9/11 attacks. I visited Pakistan and lived in
Afghanistan for one year. When Time Magazine asked me
to go to Iraq, I tried to acquaint myself with the
situation there. In the past year, I worked in Lebanon
when CNN asked me to cover the war there.
Q: What are differences between covering the wars in
Afghanistan and Iraq?
A: The two cannot be compared and I love Iraq for
several reasons. I am sad to say that there was life
and vitality in Iraq that I did not find during my
previous experience. I was coming from Afghanistan,
where people follow the old way of life and life is
very difficult, roads are damaged, electricity is cut
off and people live in villages in mountains in the
absence of education and a middle class. Movement was
difficult and everything required a lot of time to be
done. When I arrived in Iraq and discovered that the
country was rich in education, ideas, debate and
infrastructure, I noticed surprising disparities. In
Iraq, for example, I wanted to go from one city to
another and I looked at the map and I calculated the
time needed to reach my destination based on my
experience in Afghanistan. I estimated that the trip
would take two days but it took only two hours. There
are many small observations that I noted in my diary
being an “Abu Naji*” who arrived in Iraq for the first
time.
*Abu Naji was the name given by Iraqis to British
forces of World War II who went to Iraq
Q: But you are Australian and not Abu Naji?
A: Every westerner is Abu Naji. Initially, we were all
Abu Naji. It is better than being called Ali Baba.
Whenever I visited a looted school, for example, and
asked the children about what happened, they simply
answered, “Ali Baba was here”.
Q: It is often reported that Western correspondents in
Baghdad stay in fortified headquarters and send local
reporters and photographers on difficult assignments
and wait for them to come back with the news. What is
your comment regarding this?
A: In the beginning, such an act was not customary.
Foreigners had freedom of movement amongst factions.
You can never replace your eyes with someone else’s.
When the level of danger and “Moqawama” (resistance)
increased, militias and Al Qaeda started targeting
foreigners. Thus, foreigners gradually became isolated
in places that were guarded and they began to depend on
Iraqi journalists for fieldwork. This has allowed them
to emerge and develop their skills on the front line in
danger. I had lost many Iraqi friends working in
journalism. It is a tragic reality that emerged with
the difficult conditions existing in the country. As
for me, I still have my means of transportation because
I have been living in Iraq for several years and I know
many people from different parties. If such conditions
hamper the work of television cameramen primarily, then
I have to say that all my friends who correspond with
newspapers and magazines are no longer able to walk in
the streets of Baghdad.
Q: Do you live in the Green Zone?
A: No, none of us live there. I know of only two media
organizations that are located in the Green Zone. Any
other media figure lives in what the US army calls “the
Red Zone” i.e. Iraq. Why would I live in the Green
Zone? There, you are isolated from real news stories
and the Iraqi people.
Q: Have you been able to gain access to Iraqi homes and
talk to intellectuals or women for example?
A: Anywhere I go in the city allows me to meet with
those kinds of people, either in cafes or restaurants.
At any place, you will find exceptional writers, poets,
musicians and painters. I used to go to exhibitions and
purchase paintings of Iraqi art and hang them in my
house. Iraq is blessed and protected with this cultural
richness which is one of the most important things that
has been destroyed by the war. As you know, anyone who
has the ability and opportunity to leave Iraq has
already done so.
Q: Have you learnt any Arabic?
A: A little bit...
Q: What of the Iraqi dialect have you learnt?
A: “Schloonak” [meaning how are you]. When I travelled
in the region from the Gulf to Lebanon and saluted
people using this word, they immediately asked me, “Are
you Iraqi?”
Q: Do you intend to continue working in Iraq?
A: Each one of us has paid a price in this war. I am
staying because there is no other place to go. I think
that I will wake up one morning and say to myself
“that’s enough”.
Q: How would you describe this war?
A: It is a catastrophe that will last for generations.
Originally posted on the website of
Asharq Alawsat Newspaper (English
edition)
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