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RICK SANCHEZ: And welcome
back. I'm Rick Sanchez.
All right. Here we go. This is always a tough
subject, because we all want success in Iraq for our
troops. But the report card tonight seems to be
saying otherwise. What would you do, for example, if
your kid brought home a report card with only eight
out of 18 passing grades? You'd say what, you'd say,
go back and you better fix this, right? You better do
better the next time around.
So, what if the next report card that your kid
brought home was even worse?
Tonight, a special look at the government's own
report card on Iraq.
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SANCHEZ (voice-over): Even back in July, it wasn't a
glowing report card. Iraq got an S for satisfactory
in only eight of 18 subjects. That's fewer than half.
Now, these are the benchmarks that were set by
Congress when it went along with the plan to approve
extra money for the war.
Now to the new report. It's not due for release by
the White House until mid-September, but "The
Washington Post" has gotten a sneak peek. And it
reports that the Government Accountability Office, or
GAO, is giving Iraq even lower scores than it got in
July.
This one gives Iraq passing grades in just three of
18 areas or benchmarks to measure progress. Two
important unsatisfactory grades stand out: violence
has not been reduced, and the Iraqi military brigades
are not ready to do the job.
This is not a report that will be well-received by
the Pentagon. In fact, a spokesperson confirms the
Defense Department is now talking with the GAO,
trying to get some of the new grades brought up.
Meanwhile, over at the White House, the president's
spokesman seems to be trying to lower expectations.
TONY SNOW, WHITE HOUSE PRESS SECRETARY: There are
going to be a number of areas where they have not met
the benchmarks but, in fact, there is significant
progress and that deserves to be noted as well.
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SANCHEZ: Joining us now are Tom Ricks, one of "The
Washington Post"'s reporters who broke today's story,
along with a colleague, on the report card. By the
way, he's also the author of a book called "Fiasco:
The American Military Adventure in Iraq." And also
joining us from Baghdad, CNN's Michael Ware.
Tom, let me begin with you.
This is not a satisfactory report, at least the way
we read it, and even worse, though, if you compare it
to the July report, correct?
THOMAS RICKS, MILITARY CORRESPONDENT, "THE WASHINGTON
POST": That's right.
In its current draft, it's a pretty pessimistic
assessment, much more than what the White House put
out in July.
SANCHEZ: All right.
Michael, if this is an unsatisfactory report card,
the question to you has to be, you are on the ground.
You see things with your own eyes and ears. Does what
you see on the ground jibe with what this report
says?
MICHAEL WARE, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Absolutely.
In fact, anyone who has had to endure this war day by
day, be they Iraqi or non-Iraqis, knows what's in
that report is patently fact. We don't need yet
another report, like a broken record during this
season of pre-September 15 reports, to tell us this.
I mean, militarily, yeah, there's some successes. The
surge is the surge. The real success is coming from
the tradeoff with the Sunni insurgency. But,
politically, it's an absolute disaster.
SANCHEZ: Well, you know what I want to do? I want to
see if we can get specific here. There's two areas
that I think are significant here. You guys tell me
if I'm wrong.
Look at number nine there, viewers. I know there's a
lot of stuff on there, but if you're sitting at home
and you're watching this, look at number nine. The
July report has an S next to it. That means
satisfactory. That's Iraqi brigades, the building up
of Iraqi brigades. This report says a big U,
unsatisfactory.
Go to the next screen, Will, if you could. There's
another area I think is significant, and, Tom, I am
going to get your response to this. Look at reduced
violence. Remember, the surge, if it was working,
this is one of the areas it was supposed to
concentrate on. The July report said mixed. This
report seems to indicate, again, a big U,
unsatisfactory.
Tom, to you. How significant is this?
RICKS: Oh, I think they are both very significant. I
think you put your finger on the two sharpest
differences between the White House assessment and
the GAO assessment.
It's on security where it says, no, the Iraqi army is
not living up to its billing. In fact, the GAO report
quite precisely points out that there used to be 10
Iraqi units capable of independent operations. Now
there are only six.
SANCHEZ: Well, look, anybody who lives in this
country as an American wants this thing to work.
Whether it is or isn't is something that we need to
all study.
But obviously the White House wants this to work.
Here is what they had to say.
And, Michael, I want you to respond on the other side
of Tony Snow's comments.
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SNOW: The idea that somehow your standard is
everything completed or nothing completed seems to me
to be a pretty high standard to meet. On the other
hand, if you're trying to figure out are you making
progress toward the goals that you have set out,
that's probably the proper way to look at it.
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SANCHEZ: Well, how do you respond to that, Michael?
WARE: I would respond to that by inviting Tony Snow
to come and spend just one day with an Iraqi family
in their house. Then he can tell me if there's any
hint of progress.
I mean, honestly, he's misleading the American
public. And what we are seeing here is, the
differences, these nuances, these conflicts within
these reports, this is more a Washington, D.C.,
story. No one here on the ground in an American
uniform needs to be told how hopeless the Iraqi army
is or how riven by sectarian divisions it is.
SANCHEZ: Tom, I want to go back to you before we run
out of time.
There is a report out that says that the Pentagon
seems to be trying to put the squeeze on GAO to have
them maybe improve the grade, so to speak. Wouldn't
that be like me going to my kid's principal and
saying, I don't like his grades, and you need to fix
it, because, obviously, it is not his fault?
RICKS: It would be more like the gym teacher going
and saying, the kid is not as stupid as he looks. He
has better coordination. He has improved more than
you think.
But I think Michael's point is very good. When the
White House talks about progress, the problem is,
they have talked about progress for five years now.
In Iraq, progress seems to be like the horizon: it's
always out there, but it never gets any closer.
SANCHEZ: Tom Ricks, Michael Ware, my thanks to both
of you.